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740 N.E.2d 265
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the parties appeared in court and entered an agreement regarding the divorce into the record. After the hearing, the trial court filed an order directing Nancy's attorney to prepare and submit the divorce decree; Jay's attorney was directed to prepare any qualified domestic relations orders ("QDROs") and other orders to transfer accounts. On October 8, 2013, Nancy's counsel filed a notice of presentation of final judgment and decree of divorce, and noted that she had been asked by Jay's attorney to make changes in the decree that were inaccurate based on the agreement that had been read into the record. The court then ordered Jay to submi

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eene No. 2013-CA-77, 2014-Ohio-5798. {¶ 8} On January 28, 2015, Nancy filed a motion for contempt and a request for attorney fees with the trial court. The contempt motion was based on several matters: (1) Jay's alleged improper transfer of funds into her retirement account without her consent or knowledge; (2) Jay's alleged violation of the divorce decree when he attempted to include assets that had been awarded to her within his property settlement payments; (3) Jay's refusal to sign a promissory note that had been presented to him and his substitution of his own modified note; and (4) Jay's failure to comply with provis

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he case. See In re Mooney, 812 F.3d 1276 (11th Cir.2016). See also In re Gardner, No. 12-12485 HRT, 2013 WL 3804594, *4 (Bankr. D.Colo., July 19, 2013) (rejecting debtor's claim for exemption of HSA funds, stating that it "cannot stretch the definition of ‘pension or retirement plan or deferred compensation plan' to embrace the funds held in an HSA"). {¶ 57} The trial court, thus, correctly concluded that Jay's HSA was not a retirement account. Although 26 U.S.C. 223(f)(4)(C) removes the 20% penalty for persons who are eligible for Medicare, that does not change the conclusion that the funds in the HSA were not

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y $11,000 for an expert Nancy hired to work with the IRS for a refund of a penalty payment of excise tax and to testify; $10,000 for an attorney Nancy hired to advise her on the promissory note and to testify; and $1,250 for an attorney who testified about ERISA matters. The court also ordered Jay to pay Nancy's counsel $40,000 of more than $99,000 in attorney fees incurred for filing contempt motions and in defending against Jay's contempt motions. Finally, the court ordered Jay to pay Nancy $15,000 for fees incurred in connection with Jay's appeal. {¶ 16} Jay timely appealed from the trial court's decision.

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[Cite as Buckingham v. Buckingham, 2018-Ohio-2039.]

 IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO
 SECOND APPELLATE DISTRICT
 GREENE COUNTY

 JAY BUCKINGHAM :
 :
 Plaintiff-Appellant : Appellate Case No. 2017-CA-31
 :
 v. : Trial Court Case No. 2013-DR-153
 :
 NANCY BUCKINGHAM : (Domestic Relations Appeal)
 :
 Defendant-Appellee :
 :

 ...........

 OPINION

 Rendered on the 25th day of May, 2018.

 ...........

KENT J. DEPOORTER, Atty. Reg. No. 0058487, 7501 Paragon Road, Dayton, Ohio
45459
 Attorney for Plaintiff-Appellant

F. ANN CROSSMAN, Atty. Reg. No. 0043525, and MICHELLE M. MACIOROWSKI, Atty.
Reg. No. 0067692, 7051 Clyo Road, Dayton, Ohio 45459
 Attorneys for Defendant-Appellee

 .............

WELBAUM, P.J.
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 {¶ 1} In this case, Plaintiff-Appellant, Jay Buckingham ("Jay"), appeals from a trial

court decision finding him in contempt and ordering him to pay attorney and expert fees

to Defendant-Appellee, Nancy Buckingham ("Nancy"). As grounds for his appeal, Jay

contends that the trial court's contempt finding was an abuse of discretion and was

against the manifest weight of the evidence. Jay further contends that the trial court's

decision was an abuse of discretion and was against the manifest weight of the evidence

in other ways, including in the denial of the use of Jay's health savings account ("HSA")

to pay the property settlement, in the award of expert witness fees, and in the award of

attorney fees. In addition, Jay contends that the trial court's failure to find Nancy in

contempt was an abuse of discretion and was against the manifest weight of the evidence.

 {¶ 2} For the reasons that follow, we conclude that the trial court did not abuse its

discretion in finding Jay in contempt, because Jay failed to comply with the requirements

for paying the property settlement, nor was the court's decision against the manifest

weight of the evidence. The trial court also did not abuse its discretion in rejecting the

use of Jay's HSA to pay the property settlement, in failing to hold Nancy in contempt, or

in awarding attorney fees and litigation expenses to Nancy. The court did err in awarding

$1,250 for one expert, because the record did not include adequate documentation of the

expert's fees. Accordingly, the judgment of the trial court is reversed with respect to the

trial court's award of expert fees for David Suich in the amount of $1,250. In all other

respects, the trial court's judgment is affirmed.

 I. Facts and Course of Proceedings
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 {¶ 3} In June 2011, Jay filed a divorce action against Nancy, and she filed a

counterclaim for divorce. That action was dismissed without prejudice in April 2013, and

Jay then filed a second complaint for divorce in June 2013. The parties had been

married since May 1994, and no children were born as a result of their marriage.

 {¶ 4} In June 2013, the parties filed an agreed order, stating that Jay would receive

free and clear certain properties, and that Nancy had received $198,750 in compensation

for her interest in the properties. They also agreed that Nancy would be paid temporary

spousal support of $5,000 per month, and that Jay would receive credit for spousal

support he had paid since a temporary support order was entered in August 2011.

 {¶ 5} On July 22, 2013, the parties appeared in court and entered an agreement

regarding the divorce into the record. After the hearing, the trial court filed an order

directing Nancy's attorney to prepare and submit the divorce decree; Jay's attorney was

directed to prepare any qualified domestic relations orders ("QDROs") and other orders

to transfer accounts. On October 8, 2013, Nancy's counsel filed a notice of presentation

of final judgment and decree of divorce, and noted that she had been asked by Jay's

attorney to make changes in the decree that were inaccurate based on the agreement

that had been read into the record. The court then ordered Jay to submit his own

proposed divorce decree, which Jay subsequently filed on October 25, 2013. On

November 25, 2013, the trial court adopted the divorce decree that Nancy had proposed.

 {¶ 6} Jay filed a notice of appeal from the divorce judgment on December 23, 2013.

Nancy then filed a motion for attorney fees on January 16, 2014, based on the fact that

the parties had agreed to the decree, but Jay had refused to sign it. On March 25, 2014,

Jay moved to dismiss the request for attorney fees, contending that it was premature.
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Subsequently, Nancy moved to withdraw her attorney fee request, subject to refiling on

presentation of Jay's appellate brief, which was due in early April 2014. The trial court

granted Nancy's motion to withdraw the fee request.

 {¶ 7} On December 30, 2014, we filed an opinion rejecting Jay's two assignments

of error and affirming the trial court's judgment. See Buckingham v. Buckingham, 2d

Dist. Greene No. 2013-CA-77, 2014-Ohio-5798.

 {¶ 8} On January 28, 2015, Nancy filed a motion for contempt and a request for

attorney fees with the trial court. The contempt motion was based on several matters:

(1) Jay's alleged improper transfer of funds into her retirement account without her

consent or knowledge; (2) Jay's alleged violation of the divorce decree when he

attempted to include assets that had been awarded to her within his property settlement

payments; (3) Jay's refusal to sign a promissory note that had been presented to him and

his substitution of his own modified note; and (4) Jay's failure to comply with provisions

in the decree pertaining to designation of Nancy as a beneficiary on his life insurance

policy, his failure to provide proof of life insurance when asked, and his failure to respond

to Nancy's request for proof of refinancing of certain property. In addition to asking that

Jay be held in contempt, Nancy asked for an award of attorney fees. On the same day,

Nancy also filed a motion asking the trial court to award her attorney fees in connection

with Jay's pursuit of the appeal.

 {¶ 9} On February 11, 2015, Jay filed a motion asking the trial court to hold Nancy

in contempt for failing to accept $50,000 from his IRA and for failing to set up a HSA so

he could transfer $25,000 into that account. Nancy then filed an amended motion for

contempt and request for attorney fees on March 23, 2015.
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 {¶ 10} Hearings were held on the contempt motions on July 10, 2015, March 15,

2016, June 9, 2016, June 10, 2016, and August 8, 2016. During the proceedings,

various other motions were filed, including motions to compel, motions in limine, and

additional contempt motions. On October 29, 2015, Jay filed another motion for

contempt, asking the court to hold Nancy in contempt for failing to accept additional HSA

funds and funds from Jay's 401(k) account. In addition, Jay filed a motion for contempt

on January 8, 2016, asking the court to hold Nancy in contempt because she had asked

the Internal Revenue Service ("IRS") for an abatement of excise taxes on qualified funds

that had been transferred to her IRA.

 {¶ 11} Nancy also filed an additional motion for contempt on March 7, 2016,

alleging that Jay had failed to pay the property settlement pursuant to the divorce decree

filed on November 25, 2013.

 {¶ 12} On March 24, 2017, the trial court filed a decision and entry finding Jay in

willful contempt for attempting to credit himself with payment of the property settlement

by using assets that had been awarded to Nancy in the divorce decree. The court

ordered Jay to adjust his accounting by eliminating the improper items and to pay Nancy

$23,072.51 plus any interest due within 30 days in order to purge the contempt.

 {¶ 13} The court also concluded that Nancy was not in contempt for contacting the

IRS, as she was attempting to protect herself against a 6% excise tax associated with

Jay's actions in overfunding her IRA account. In addition, the court found that Jay had

violated the divorce decree or had acted incorrectly in several respects, including failing

to designate Nancy as a beneficiary on life insurance policies, overfunding Nancy's

retirement account without her knowledge, and engaging in self-help regarding a
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promissory note rather than approaching the court. The court declined to find Jay in

contempt concerning these matters, but indicated that as a result of Jay's actions, Nancy

had incurred expert and attorney fees.

 {¶ 14} Further, the court overruled Jay's motion for contempt regarding Nancy's

refusal to accept HSA payments, due to Nancy's legitimate concern about whether such

funds could be used to pay the property settlement. The court additionally concluded

that use of HSA funds was not contemplated at the time of the decree and improperly

restricted Nancy's use of the funds. And finally, the court concluded that Jay failed to

present proper paperwork to accomplish a transfer of funds. The court, therefore,

overruled Jay's motion for contempt in its entirety.

 {¶ 15} The court noted that it could impose attorney fees under R.C. 3105.73(B)

for post-decree motions, as equitable. Finding that Nancy was the economically

disadvantaged party, and that Jay had caused problems by taking unilateral actions and

by engaging in self-help, the court ordered Jay to pay $11,000 for an expert Nancy hired

to work with the IRS for a refund of a penalty payment of excise tax and to testify; $10,000

for an attorney Nancy hired to advise her on the promissory note and to testify; and $1,250

for an attorney who testified about ERISA matters. The court also ordered Jay to pay

Nancy's counsel $40,000 of more than $99,000 in attorney fees incurred for filing

contempt motions and in defending against Jay's contempt motions. Finally, the court

ordered Jay to pay Nancy $15,000 for fees incurred in connection with Jay's appeal.

 {¶ 16} Jay timely appealed from the trial court's decision.

 II. Finding of Contempt
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 {¶ 17} Jay's First Assignment of Error states that:

 The Trial Court Abused Its Discretion and Its Findings Were Against

 the Manifest Weight of the Evidence in Finding That the Plaintiff Is In

 Contempt of Court for Failing to Pay the First Two Years of Payments in the

 Manner Specified in the Decree.

 {¶ 18} Under this assignment of error, Jay contends that the trial court abused its

discretion by finding him in contempt for failing to pay the amounts due in the first two

years of payments in the manner specified in the decree. Jay agrees that he owed the

amount stated by the court ($488,179), but contends that the amounts he paid and offered

to pay exceeded that amount. In this regard, Jay argues that he properly included

various accounts in Nancy's name that were awarded to him in the divorce, plus a HSA

account of $25,000, which would have exceeded the amount due. Jay further argues

that until the trial court filed its decision on March 24, 2017, he was proceeding under our

decision of December 30, 2014, which stated that the decree did not prohibit the use of

any particular type of funds for payment of the property settlement.

 {¶ 19} As a preliminary point, we note that the trial court held Jay in contempt for

including funds that had been awarded to Nancy within Jay's calculation of what

payments were due for the property settlement. See Doc. #220, p. 4. Specifically, the

court stated that "Defendant's assets awarded in the Final Decree that are included in

Plaintiff's payments total $17,997.73 of the Plaintiff's calculations in his March 7, 2014

letter and do not include the 3% simple interest. The Court finds the Plaintiff is in willful

contempt on this branch of Defendant's March 16, 2016 motion * * *." Id.

 {¶ 20} In reaching its decision, the court commented that marital assets including
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Nancy's "checking and savings account, in the amount of $2,000; and her cash in the

amount of $5,000, her Pershing account in the amount of $170.54, and [her]

Transamerica Life Insurance policy, with a cash value of $10,827," had been "clearly

awarded solely" to Nancy in the final decree. Id. at pp. 2-3. This is contrary to Jay's

assertion that the property in question, like Nancy's checking and savings accounts, were

awarded to him in the divorce decree.

 {¶ 21} The court further stated that Jay's calculation of the amount due (Plaintiff's

Ex. 68) was less credible than Nancy's accounting of payments. In this regard, the court

commented that Jay's amortization schedule (Ex. 68) clearly deducted the amounts

Nancy was awarded in the final decree from the $976,358 loan. However, Nancy's Ex.

BB used exact figures and did not include the assets awarded to Nancy in the final decree.

The court, therefore, found that Nancy's Ex. BB was the more credible accounting. See

Doc. #220 at pp. 3-4.

 {¶ 22} As a result, the court excluded the assets awarded to Nancy from any

portion of the payments that Jay owed to Nancy. In addition, the court noted that if these

assets were eliminated, along with a $25,000 HSA account, Jay had paid Nancy

$465,106.49 on the loan principal as of March 25, 2014. However, under the terms of

the decree, Jay should have paid Nancy $488,179 as of March 25, 2014. Furthermore,

the court also found that the $465,109.49 in actual payments did not include the 3%

simple interest that was also due. Id. at p. 4.

 {¶ 23} "Contempt is defined in general terms as disobedience of a court order."

State ex rel. Corn v. Russo, 90 Ohio St.3d 551, 554, 740 N.E.2d 265 (2001). "Civil

contempt sanctions are designed for remedial or coercive purposes and are often
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employed to compel obedience to a court order. * * * Thus, civil contempts are

characterized as violations against the party for whose benefit the order was made * * *."

(Citations omitted.) Id. at 554-555.

 {¶ 24} "A prima facie case of contempt is made by establishing a prior court order

and a violation of its terms," and contempt findings "must be supported by clear and

convincing evidence." (Citations omitted.) Martin v. Martin, 179 Ohio App.3d 805,

2008-Ohio-6336, 903 N.E.2d 1243, ¶ 24 (2d Dist.). After the moving party proves a

violation, the nonmovant bears the burden of establishing a defense for noncompliance.

We then review the contempt order for an abuse of discretion. (Citations omitted.)

Schutz v. Schutz, 2017-Ohio-695, 85 N.E.3d 481, ¶ 52 (2d Dist.).

 {¶ 25} The divorce decree, which was filed on November 25, 2013, provided that

Jay would retain various parcels of real property, including Maple Groves, LLC (which

consisted of Maple Grove Estates I, II, III, IV, and V), Grand Lakes (which included five

properties), and Cobblegate. The decree noted that Nancy had been paid $200,000 for

her equity in Grand Lakes.

 {¶ 26} With respect to retirement accounts, the decree further noted that the

parties had various retirement accounts which would be divided. Jay was given his

traditional IRA, Pershing No. XXX8551, and his Simple IRA, Pershing No. XXX9880;

Nancy received her IRA, Pershing No. XXX8536. The decree also stated that "[t]he

parties agree that the value of these retirement accounts has been taken into account in

the Property Settlement Paragraph, set forth herein." Doc. #31, p. 10.

 {¶ 27} Concerning financial accounts, the decree stated that:

 The parties represent that they have various financial accounts with
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 Schwab, Pershing, JP Morgan, Transamerica, Nationwide Life, and Fifth

 Third Bank. The Plaintiff shall retain his Pershing Advisors account, his

 Charles Schwab account, and his J.P. Morgan account. The Defendant

 shall retain her Pershing Advisors account. Additionally, each party shall

 retain their individual checking and savings accounts presently in their

 individual names. The division of the various investment accounts has

 been taken into consideration in the Property Settlement paragraph set forth

 herein.

 The parties further agree that all joint accounts have been closed.

Doc. #31, p. 10. Jay also retained his business interests, including entities like

Buckingham & Company, LLC, Buckingham Capital Management, Buckingham Financial

Group, Buckingham Tax Services, Inc. dba Weston & Company, National Tax CR Fund,

and several others.

 {¶ 28} Under the "Property Settlement Payments" clause, the decree provided

that:

 The parties agree that the Defendant shall receive the sum of

 $1,200,000.00 as property settlement in this case. This sum shall be paid

 at the statutory interest rate of 3% per annum, simple interest. The parties

 agree that $223,642.50 has been paid previously to the Defendant in this

 case. The remaining balance of $976,358.00 shall be paid in 4 equal

 payments plus the 3% interest at the same time each year. The first year's

 payment shall be made within 90 days of the filing of the Final Judgment

 and Decree of Divorce in the amount of $244,089.50 plus 3% simple interest
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 from the time of the filing of the Final Judgment and Decree of Divorce until

 the first payment has been made. The remaining balance shall then be

 paid in the same three (3) equal installments of $244,089.60 plus simple

 interest over the next 3 years on the same date as the first payment was

 made by the Plaintiff. The parties agree that Plaintiff shall be entitled to

 pay ahead of schedule if he chooses.

 The property settlement payment due and owing to the Defendant

 shall be secured by Promissory Note which shall be signed by the Plaintiff

 to the Defendant. The Plaintiff shall sign the promissory note to secure the

 Defendant's property settlement payment upon presentation of same by the

 Defendant.

 Both parties shall sign whatever additional documents are necessary

 to complete the transfer of the property settlement funds to the Defendant

 by the Plaintiff. Counsel for the Plaintiff shall prepare the necessary orders

 in the event that qualified funds from retirement accounts are used. The

 parties agree that the funds are a division of property incident to a divorce

 and a non-taxable event pursuant to I.R.S. Code Section 408(d)(6) and

 I.R.S. Code Section 71(b)(2)(a).

 The parties specifically agree that this property settlement payment

 set forth herein is non-dischargeable in bankruptcy and shall be considered

 a domestic support obligation.

Doc. #31 at pp. 12-13.

 {¶ 29} When the decree was filed, the balance left remaining on the property
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settlement was $976,358.50. On December 9, 2013, Jay's attorney, Kent Depoorter,

sent three proposed QDROs to Nancy's attorney, Ann Crossman. The QDROs related

to three accounts: Jay's Pershing IRA No. XXX8551; Jay's Pershing Simple IRA No.

9880; and Jay's Fifth Third HSA No. XXXXXX0498.1 The proposed orders pertaining to

these accounts stated that "this Order shall be a Qualified Domestic Relations Order

(hereinafter referred to as a ‘QDRO' as defined in section 206(d)(3) of the Employee

Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (‘ERISA') and section 414(p) of the Internal

Revenue Code of 1986 * * *." Defendant's Ex. Q, Bates Stamp 00266, 00272, and

00277.

 {¶ 30} Crossman responded on December 10, 2013, stating that "Individual

Retirement Accounts are not governed by ERISA laws and, therefore, Qualified Domestic

Relations Orders do not apply. Please forward to me the correct documents dividing the

Individual Retirement Accounts." Plaintiff's Ex. 2, p. 1.

 {¶ 31} Rather than responding or forwarding any documents, Depoorter sent

Pershing a letter on December 13, 2013 asking Pershing to transfer 100% of Jay's

accounts (XXX8551 and XXX9880) to Nancy's Pershing Account No. XXX8536. See

Plaintiff's Ex. 3. Jay also signed "asset movement authorization" forms on December

17, 2013. Plaintiff's Ex. 25. Based on these documents, Pershing transferred

$167,058.54 from Jay's Simple IRA (XXX9880) into Nancy's IRA account on December

18, 2013, and $142,062.04 from Jay's IRA (XXX8551) into Nancy's Pershing IRA account

on December 23, 2013. On Nancy's Pershing statement, these transfers were reflected

as QDRO transfers. See Defendant's Ex. B, Bates Stamp 00014-00015. As was noted,

1 The decree did not identify or discuss any HSA accounts.
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Jay's notice of appeal was also filed on December 23, 2013. Based on the timing of the

payments and the content of the divorce decree, the next payment of the property

settlement would be due on December 18, 2014, and the remaining payments would be

due on December 18th of each year thereafter, until the payments were completed.

 {¶ 32} On December 24, 2013, Crossman contacted Depoorter about the

retirement orders to be prepared, but did not receive a response. See Plaintiff's Ex. 4.

Nancy first learned about the transfer of funds when she received her Pershing statement

in January 2014. She contacted Pershing to request a reversal of the transfer because

it had been done without her authorization and Pershing was the custodian of her account.

However, Pershing refused. Pershing also refused to provide her with documentation

because the transfer had been made from Jay's account; Nancy was finally able to obtain

documents in February 2015, after issuing a subpoena to Pershing.

 {¶ 33} After December 9, 2013, Jay's counsel did not prepare and send any further

orders for transfers of funds to Nancy. On January 9, 2014, Crossman sent a promissory

note to Depoorter. Depoorter replied on January 14, 2014, and in the letter, provided his

accounting of items that Jay intended to include as payments to Nancy in satisfaction of

the $976,358 settlement. Plaintiff's Ex. 4. At the contempt hearing, Nancy testified that

Jay had improperly claimed credit against the property settlement for a life insurance

policy that she had owned since its inception, as well as other accounts that belonged to

her. On January 23, 2014, Crossman informed Depoorter of the fact that Jay was not

entitled to use Nancy's money to pay the property settlement. See Defendant's Ex. T,

Bates Stamp 00290.

 {¶ 34} However, Depoorter continued to insist that such items should be included.
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For example, in a letter of March 20, 2014, Depoorter stated that the following amounts,

among others, were "payments" that had been made to Nancy: a Transamerica life

insurance policy (that was titled in Nancy's name) in the amount of $10,827.19; "Nancy's

checking and savings accounts" in the amount of $2,000; "Nancy's cash" in the amount

of $5,000; and "Nancy's Pershing account as of 6/30/2011" in the amount of $170.54.

Defendant's Ex. U, Bates Stamp 00296-00297. Depoorter made the same claims again

in a March 27, 2014 letter to Crossman. Defendant's Ex. V, Bates stamp 00314-00315.

 {¶ 35} According to Depoorter's assertions in these letters, Jay had paid Nancy a

total of $512,191.89 by March 27, 2014. This amount included the above accounts and

cash that Nancy owned, a $25,000 HSA account that was not transferred to Nancy and

was in dispute; the money transferred from Jay's IRAs in December 2013, and a $160,000

check that was paid on February 24, 2014.

 {¶ 36} At the hearing on June 9, 2016, Jay presented Plaintiff's Ex. 68, which was

an amortization schedule prepared by his CPA. This schedule listed the payment

balance as of November 25, 2013 (the date of the decree) at $935,360, after deducting

Nancy's life insurance, Nancy's cash, and Nancy's Pershing account. Thus, even in

June 2016, Jay was still contending that he should be credited with assets that belonged

to Nancy. Furthermore, Jay never provided any reason or testimony at the contempt

hearings to show why these amounts should be appropriately credited against money he

was required to pay. As a result, Jay failed to meet his burden to show that that he had

a defense to contempt. See Schutz, 2017-Ohio-695, 85 N.E.3d 481, at ¶ 52.

 {¶ 37} Furthermore, Jay incorrectly asserts in his brief that until the trial court

issued its contempt rulings on March 24, 2017, he was properly proceeding under our
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decision of December 30, 2014. When Jay attempted to pay using the HSA in December

2013 and in early 2014, our decision had not yet been made. In addition, by the time of

the June 9, 2016 hearing, when Jay was still arguing that he was entitled to be credited

with Nancy's cash and savings accounts, we had long ago held that the trial court did not

abuse "its discretion in concluding that the agreed entry submitted by Mrs. Buckingham

accurately reflected the parties' agreement and that the parties intended to keep the

accounts in their own names." Buckingham, 2d Dist. Greene No. 2013-CA-77, 2014-

Ohio-5798, at ¶ 22. We further commented that "[m]oreover, insofar as the parties'

retention of their own accounts, according to the final judgment, was factored into the

property settlement, any adjustment to the distribution of these accounts would

necessitate a corresponding adjustment of the property settlement." Id. Thus, there

was no credible basis for asserting that in paying the property settlement, Jay should be

credited with the amounts listed in Ex. 68 as Nancy's cash, Nancy's Pershing account,

and Nancy's life insurance.

 {¶ 38} Moreover, the divorce decree required Jay's attorney to draft any orders

that were needed. There was no dispute that after Depoorter sent proposed QDROs to

Nancy's attorney in December 2013, Depoorter never thereafter submitted any additional

documents. Thus, Jay's contention that he "paid" Nancy $25,000 in additional HSA

funds, or even that he should be credited with attempting to pay her this amount, is without

merit. The trial court also commented, in refusing to find Nancy in contempt for failing to

set up a HSA account, that the decree did not require her to set up financial accounts into

which Jay could transfer funds. In this regard, the trial court commented that Jay "may

have avoided the lengthy hearing by cashing out the [HSA], if possible, and using the
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cash to pay the property settlement. He again, unilaterally decided not to do so." Doc.

#220 at p. 16.

 {¶ 39} Accordingly, we find no abuse of discretion in the trial court's finding that

Jay was in contempt for failing to pay the first two years of payments as specified in the

decree. An offer to pay is not payment, and there is no dispute that Jay did not transfer

funds to Nancy as specified in the divorce decree. As shown in Defendant's Ex. BB, by

December 18, 2014, Jay had transferred only $465,812.87 to Nancy, when the terms of

the decree required that he have transferred $488,197, plus 3% simple interest, by that

date. For the same reasons, the court's order was not against the manifest weight of the

evidence.

 {¶ 40} In a manifest weight challenge, " ‘[t]he court, reviewing the entire record,

weighs the evidence and all reasonable inferences, considers the credibility of witnesses

and determines whether in resolving conflicts in the evidence, the jury clearly lost its way

and created such a manifest miscarriage of justice that the conviction must be reversed

and a new trial ordered. The discretionary power to grant a new trial should be exercised

only in the exceptional case in which the evidence weighs heavily against the

[judgment].' " State v. Thompkins, 78 Ohio St.3d 380, 387, 678 N.E.2d 541 (1997),

quoting State v. Martin, 20 Ohio App.3d 172, 175, 485 N.E.2d 717 (1st Dist.1983).

Accord Eastley v. Volkman, 132 Ohio St.3d 328, 2012-Ohio-2179, 972 N.E.2d 517, ¶ 17

(applying Thompkins to civil cases).

 {¶ 41} Trial courts resolve witness credibility and the weight to be accorded to the

testimony. (Citation omitted.) Jenkins v. Jenkins, 2012-Ohio-4182, 975 N.E.2d 1060, ¶

18 (2d Dist.). "Because the factfinder, be it the jury or, as in this case, the trial judge,
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has the opportunity to see and hear the witnesses, the cautious exercise of the

discretionary power of a court of appeals to find that a judgment is against the manifest

weight of the evidence requires that substantial deference be extended to the factfinder's

determinations of credibility. The decision whether, and to what extent, to credit the

testimony of particular witnesses is within the peculiar competence of the factfinder, who

has seen and heard the witness." State v. Lawson, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 16288,

1997 WL 476684, *4 (Aug. 22, 1997).

 {¶ 42} We have carefully reviewed the record and conclude that this is not the

exceptional case in which the evidence weighs heavily against the trial court's judgment.

To the contrary, we agree with the trial court that Jay's assertion of amounts he was

entitled to offset was not credible.

 {¶ 43} Accordingly, Jay's First Assignment of Error is overruled.

 III. Treatment of HSA

 {¶ 44} Jay's Second Assignment of Error states that:

 The Trial Court Abused Its Discretion and Its Findings Were Against

 the Manifest Weight of the Evidence in Finding That Appellant Cannot Use

 His HSA (Health Savings Account) to Pay the Property Settlement and

 Places Restrictions on the Use of Said Funds.

 {¶ 45} Under this assignment of error, Jay contends that the trial court abused its

discretion by finding that Jay could not use HSA funds to pay the property settlement.

Jay's reasoning is based on the fact that the trial court stated during the transcript that

there was no restriction on the funds that could be used to pay the property settlement,
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but ruled to the contrary in its judgment entry by finding that Jay could not use HSA funds

to pay. In addition, Jay cites various statements of experts who testified that transfers of

HSA funds under divorce decrees have no tax consequences on transfer.

 {¶ 46} The contempt motions were heard by the trial court, and the court made

numerous comments throughout the hearings, some of which were not consistent with

each other. However, it is well-settled that courts speak only through their journal

entries. Economy Fire & Cas. Co. v. Craft Gen. Contrs., Inc., 7 Ohio App.3d 335, 336,

455 N.E.2d 1037 (10th Dist.1982), citing Andrews v. Bd. of Liquor Control, 164 Ohio St.

275, 131 N.E.2d 390 (1955), paragraph three of the syllabus. Thus, judges can change

their minds "before making a journal entry without giving the parties grounds for an

appeal, because the court has not spoken until its journal entry is filed." (Citation

omitted.) Id. Accord Smith v. Smith, 2d Dist. Clark No. 2087, 1986 WL 1698, *3 (Feb.

10, 1986).

 {¶ 47} Until the judgment is finalized, courts have " ‘inherent power to reconsider

any matter.' " State v. Nelson, 10th Dist. Franklin No. 14AP-229, 2014-Ohio-5757, ¶ 23,

quoting C.C.M. Enterprises, Inc. v. U.S. Fire Ins. Co., 1st Dist. No. C-870193, 1988 WL

26226 (Mar. 2, 1988). See also In re D.M., 2d Dist. Champaign No. 09CA48, 2011-Ohio-

123, ¶ 14 (judge's oral statements have no legal force and effect when not journalized);

In re Adoption of Gibson, 23 Ohio St.3d 170, 173, 492 N.E.2d 146 (1986), fn.3 (stating

that because a court speaks only through its journal, "commentary from the bench,

leading up to pronouncement of a decision," is not "adequate to provide a disappointed

party a solid basis on which to ground an appeal").

 {¶ 48} There is no doubt that this was a complicated case. We note that even the
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experts that Jay presented contradicted each other regarding HSAs. For example,

Alissa Culp, a third-party administrator for tax-free accounts, stated that an individual

does not have to be on a high-deductible plan to open a HSA account. Transcript of

August 8, 2016 Hearing, p. 32. In contrast, David Whaley, an ERISA and employee

benefits attorney, stated that a HSA is an account that is dependent on having a high-

deductible health care plan, and an individual is allowed to set up a special account for

health-care coverage when he or she has a high-deductible plan and no other

disqualifying coverage. Id. at pp. 48-49.

 {¶ 49} Throughout the course of the hearings, an issue was the interpretation of

our prior opinion, which briefly discussed Jay's contention on appeal that "the terms of

the property settlement upon which the parties had agreed called for him to pay Mrs.

Buckingham $1.2 million from qualified or non-qualified sources, but that the final entry

"limited [him] to the use of cash or qualified funds from retirement accounts" for the

payment of this obligation." Buckingham, 2d Dist. Greene No. 2013-CA-77, 2014-Ohio-

5798, at ¶ 17.

 {¶ 50} Our entire consideration of this point was limited to one paragraph, in which

we said that we found no language in the decree imposing the limitation that Jay

advocated. We noted that the only reference to funds "in the section related to the

property settlement states that Mr. Buckingham's attorney ‘shall prepare the necessary

orders in the event that qualified funds from retirement accounts are used.' " (Emphasis

sic.) Id. at ¶ 18. We concluded that "[t]his language does not require or prohibit the

use of any particular type of funds for the payment of the property settlement and even

implicitly approves the usage of qualified funds." Id.
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 {¶ 51} Notably, we did not define "qualified funds," nor did we have occasion to

consider whether the use of any particular method of payment was consistent with the

intent of the property settlement, because no payments had been made at the time of the

appeal. As a result, that issue was not before us, and our comments, in that respect,

were dicta.

 {¶ 52} In its decision, the trial court concluded that HSAs are not retirement funds,

and that nothing in the decree gave Jay authority to pay Nancy "her share of the property

settlement in any form which would result in any further limitation or costs incurred by her

when she uses the funds except the tax consequences of her use of the qualified funds."

Doc. #220 at p. 15. The court, therefore, held that Nancy was not under any obligation

to accept HSA funds and that Jay was required to exclude his HSA account from the

payment of the property settlement. Id.

 {¶ 53} "Ohio law clearly establishes that a judgment may be interpreted if it is

ambiguous. If there is good faith confusion over the interpretation to be given to a

particular clause of a divorce decree, the trial court in enforcing that decree has the power

to hear the matter, clarify the confusion, and resolve the dispute." (Citations omitted.)

Quisenberry v. Quisenberry, 91 Ohio App. 3d 341, 348, 632 N.E.2d 916 (2d Dist.1993).

Accord Landry v. Landry, 2017-Ohio-564, 85 N.E.3d 313, ¶ 7 (2d Dist.). The trial court

is to consider the equities involved in determining the prior intent of the decree.

(Citations omitted.) Rubin v. Rubin, 11th Dist. Trumbull No. 2005-T-0016, 2006-Ohio-

2383, ¶ 27; Makar v. Makar, 7th Dist. Mahoning No. 02 CA 37, 2003-Ohio-1071, ¶ 12.

See also Hale v. Hale, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 21402, 2007-Ohio-867, ¶ 15 ("the court

must, in interpreting an ambiguous property division, consider both the equities involved
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and the law in determining the intent").

 {¶ 54} "An interpretative decision by the trial court cannot be disturbed upon

appeal absent a showing of an abuse of discretion." In re Marriage of Seders, 42 Ohio

App.3d 155, 156, 536 N.E.2d 1190 (9th Dist.1987), citing Blakemore v. Blakemore, 5 Ohio

St.3d 217, 450 N.E.2d 1140 (1983). As we have often said, an abuse of discretion " ‘has

been defined as an attitude that is unreasonable, arbitrary, or unconscionable.' "

Mossing-Landers v. Landers, 2016-Ohio-7625, 73 N.E.3d 1060, ¶ 21 (2d Dist.), quoting

AAAA Enterprises, Inc. v. River Place Community Urban Redevelopment Corp., 50 Ohio

St.3d 157, 161, 553 N.E.2d 597 (1990). We have also repeatedly stressed, in following

AAAA Enterprises, that " ‘most instances of abuse of discretion will result in decisions that

are simply unreasonable,' " and that decisions are unreasonable if they are unsupported

by a sound reasoning process. Id. See also, e.g., Myers v. Brewer, 2017-Ohio-4324,

91 N.E.3d 1249, ¶ 12 (2d Dist.).

 {¶ 55} We agree with the trial court's conclusion that nothing in the decree permits

Jay to limit Nancy's use of the property settlement in the manner that a HSA would

involve. "HSAs are creations of the Internal Revenue Code and were authorized by

Congress in the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of

2003. See Pub. L. 108-173, § 1201, 117 Stat. 2066, 2469-79 (2003). * * * Essentially,

HSAs encourage individuals who have high deductibles in their health insurance plans to

save for their healthcare costs by providing tax-preferred treatment for such savings.

See 26 USC § 223 (a). Disbursements from a HSA for anything other than qualified

medical expenses generally are taxable as gross income and at an additional rate of 20%.

See 26 USC § 223 (f) (4) (A)." (Footnotes omitted.) Mooney v. Webster, 300 Ga. 283,
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286-87, and 291, 794 S.E.2d 31 (2016) (agreeing with the federal district court that HSAs

are different from IRAs because "a HSA is not a substitute for wages * * *").

 {¶ 56} The federal district court decision that the Supreme Court of Georgia

referenced was In re Mooney, 503 B.R. 916 (Bankr. M.D. Ga.2014). In that case, the

federal district court had noted that while "[b]oth HSAs and IRAs are tax-favored savings

accounts with penalties for nonqualified withdrawals," a HSA differs from an IRA in

significant ways, including the fact that, unlike an IRA, a HSA is not "a substitute for wages

after an individual retires," but functions "as a means to save for and to pay medical

expenses without regard to the income needs of the account owner * * *." Id. at 922,

citing Rousey v. Jacoway, 544 U.S. 320, 329-330, 125 S.Ct. 1561, 161 L.Ed.2d 563

(2005). The Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals subsequently certified questions to the

Supreme Court of Georgia, and that is how the Supreme Court of Georgia came to

consider the case. See In re Mooney, 812 F.3d 1276 (11th Cir.2016). See also In re

Gardner, No. 12-12485 HRT, 2013 WL 3804594, *4 (Bankr. D.Colo., July 19, 2013)

(rejecting debtor's claim for exemption of HSA funds, stating that it "cannot stretch the

definition of ‘pension or retirement plan or deferred compensation plan' to embrace the

funds held in an HSA").

 {¶ 57} The trial court, thus, correctly concluded that Jay's HSA was not a

retirement account. Although 26 U.S.C. 223(f)(4)(C) removes the 20% penalty for

persons who are eligible for Medicare, that does not change the conclusion that the funds

in the HSA were not qualified funds in a retirement account. The HSA funds, therefore,

were not within the contemplation of how funds could be transferred. Specifically, the

decree does not evidence an intent to restrict Nancy's use of the property settlement in
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this manner.

 {¶ 58} Even if this were otherwise, we disagree, in part, with the trial court's

conclusion that Nancy's use of her property settlement could be limited by the

requirement that she pay the tax consequences of having received qualified funds. In

this regard, the court stated that it "additionally finds that nothing in the divorce decree

gives the Plaintiff the authority to pay the Defendant her share of the property settlement

in any form which would result in any further limitations or costs incurred by her when she

uses the funds except the tax consequence of her use of the qualified funds." Doc. #

220 at p. 15. To the extent that the court's statement can be read to include payments

made through Jay's retirement or qualified funds that were accumulated after the divorce,

it is inconsistent with the intent surrounding the division of the marital property.

 {¶ 59} "Marital property is statutorily considered to be owned equally by both

spouses," and an equal split "is presumed most equitable." Young v. Young, 2d Dist.

Clark No. 08-CA-59, 2009-Ohio-3504, ¶ 3, citing R.C. 3105.171(C)(1) and (2).

Additionally, "retirement benefits earned during marriage generally are divisible as marital

property." (Citations omitted.) Id. at ¶ 31.

 {¶ 60} As was noted above, the parties' retirement funds were considered in

conjunction with all the assets in reaching the property settlement. See Doc. #31 at p.

10. However, the only pension or retirement funds Jay had at the time of the divorce

were the ones listed in the decree – his Pershing traditional and Simple IRAs. See

Transcript of June 10, 2016 Hearing, Testimony of Jay Buckingham, p. 302 (indicating he

had disclosed all his assets and liabilities at the time of the divorce and that he did not
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then have a 401(k) account).2 However, Jay later asked to transfer numerous after-

acquired retirement or other qualified funds, including the following: (1) $25,000 from

Jay's HSA (the HSA previously discussed that was the subject of a proposed QDRO on

December 9, 2013); (2) $50,000 from Jay's Simple IRA (January 15, 2015); (3) $15,000

from Jay's Simple IRA (May 4, 2015); (5) $10,000 from Jay's HSA on May 5, 2015, which

was increased by another $5,000 on July 31, 2015; and (6) $75,000 from Jay's IRA on

July 31, 2015. See Defendant's Ex. RR, Bates Stamp 000601; Plaintiff's Ex. 60.

 {¶ 61} In a letter dated July 31, 2015, Jay's attorney indicated that Jay would not

calculate interest on these funds from that date forward because he had tried to transfer

the funds to Nancy. Id. at Defendant's Ex. RR, Bates Stamp 000601. In addition, Jay

filed a motion for contempt against Nancy on October 29, 2015, based on her refusal to

accept the above after-acquired funds. Id. at Plaintiff's Ex. 60 (September 2, 2015

Depoorter letter to Crossman, enclosing motion for contempt). See also Doc. #113

(contempt motion filed on October 29, 2015).

 {¶ 62} Jay's Pershing IRA and Simple IRA accounts were clearly the funds

contemplated when the parties agreed that "Counsel for the Plaintiff shall prepare the

necessary orders in the event that qualified funds from retirement accounts are used."

Doc. #31 at p. 13.

 {¶ 63} Concerning taxability, the decree states only as follows:

 Both parties shall sign whatever additional documents are necessary

2 Jay indicated that he could not recall if the 401(k) account was created in 2013 or 2014,
but the administrator of the fund testified that it was effective January 1, 2014. Transcript
of August 8, 2016 Hearing, p. 7. See also Transcript of June 10, 2016 Hearing, pp. 303-
304 and Ex. SS, Bates Stamp 000628 (indicating that the 401(k) account for Jay was
created on February 18, 2014).
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 to complete the transfer of funds to the Defendant by the Plaintiff. Counsel

 for the Plaintiff shall prepare the necessary orders in the event that qualified

 funds from retirement accounts are used. The parties agree that the funds

 are a division of property incident to a divorce and a non-taxable event

 pursuant to I.R.S. Code Section 408(d)(6) and I.R.S. Code Section

 71(b)(2)(a).

Doc. # 31, p. 13.

 {¶ 64} The decree thus indicated that the transfer of funds would be nontaxable,

but did not address the taxability of funds after they were transferred. We conclude that,

with the exception of the retirement funds in existence on the date of the order, any other

funds transferred to Nancy, including funds in Jay's HSAs, could not be done in a way

that would be taxable to her. As was noted, this was not an issue raised or considered

in the prior appeal.

 {¶ 65} R.C. 3105.171(A)(3)(a) defines "marital property" as:

 (i) All real and personal property that currently is owned by either or

 both of the spouses, including, but not limited to, the retirement benefits of

 the spouses, and that was acquired by either or both of the spouses during

 the marriage;

 (ii) All interest that either or both of the spouses currently has in any

 real or personal property, including, but not limited to, the retirement

 benefits of the spouses, and that was acquired by either or both of the

 spouses during the marriage;

 (iii) Except as otherwise provided in this section, all income and
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 appreciation on separate property, due to the labor, monetary, or in-kind

 contribution of either or both of the spouses that occurred during the

 marriage * * *.

(Emphasis added.)

 {¶ 66} "In any divorce action, the starting point for a trial court's analysis is an equal

division of marital property." (Citation omitted.) Daniel v. Daniel, 139 Ohio St.3d 275,

2014-Ohio-1161, 11 N.E.3d 1119, ¶ 7. It is axiomatic that an equal division of marital

property "is presumed to be equitable." Fisher v. Fisher, 2d Dist. Darke No. 2014-CA-6,

2015-Ohio-786, ¶ 6; Young, 2d Dist. Clark No. 08-CA-59, 2009-Ohio-3504, at ¶ 3. If

Nancy were required to pay taxes on the property settlement funds distributed to her,

other than the retirement funds mentioned in the decree, that would cause her to receive

less than an equitable or equal amount of marital assets. See Caudill v. Everett, 3d Dist.

Union No. 14-92-40, 1993 WL 169158, *2 (May 10, 1993) (refusing to interpret decree to

contravene obvious intent of parties, who agreed that marital debts would be equitably

divided). See also Hale, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 21402, 2007-Ohio-867, at ¶ 15 (in

interpreting ambiguity in property division, courts consider equities and law to decide

intent); Hocker v. Hocker, 188 Ohio App.3d 755, 2010-Ohio-2835, 936 N.E.2d 1003, ¶ 24

and 65 (2d Dist.) (in construing ambiguous divorce agreement read into record, the intent

of the parties and the equities involved are considered).

 {¶ 67} In Hocker, we concluded that the trial court erred in refusing to allow a

party's attorney to testify about the parties' motives during their negotiations to clarify an

ambiguity in the agreed decree; however, we found that the error was harmless because

the court did consider the proffer of the attorney's testimony. Id. at ¶ 42. Notably, in the
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case before us, neither side attempted to present evidence from their attorneys as to

negotiations.

 {¶ 68} Nancy's tax expert, J.R. Hochwalt, testified that Nancy is in a 33% federal

tax bracket and a 4.9% state tax bracket. Assuming that all of the $976,358 property

settlement (excluding interest) were paid in funds that required Nancy to pay tax when

she accessed the funds, and also assuming that Nancy's tax rate remained the same,

she would potentially pay around $370,039, or more than one-third of the property

settlement when she accessed the funds.3 This would be significantly less than an equal

or equitable division of the marital property. It is also not speculative that Nancy would

have to withdraw retirement funds, since she was 65 years old at the time of the 2016

hearings, and had no income other than her spousal support (which would end in the

summer of 2017) and $800 per month in social security benefits.4 Even assuming that

Nancy might be in a lower tax bracket in later withdrawing the funds, she would still

receive less than her equal share of the marital property.

 {¶ 69} While the decree did contemplate that qualified funds in retirement accounts

could be transferred, the only logical way to interpret that is that the parties contemplated

3 This is consistent with the trial court's observations a number of times during the
hearings that the difference in who was responsible for paying tax was about $400,000.
The court did not make a specific finding on this point, as the court concluded that it was
bound by our prior decision. Doc. #220 at p. 15. However, as has been noted, we had
no reason to consider this issue, as no payments had been made prior to the time Jay
appealed from the original judgment of divorce.
4 In addition, Nancy had already been subjected to IRS excise penalties concerning the
overfunding of her Pershing IRA in December 2013. Although Nancy self-reported the
issue to the IRS, which then assessed penalties, she did so on the advice of her tax
expert, who concluded that her Pershing IRA had been improperly overfunded. He was
eventually able to get the penalty amounts refunded, but Nancy did have to pay these
amounts in the interim, in addition to expending funds on a tax consultant.
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potential taxable consequences for transfer of those retirement funds in existence at the

time of the decree. As was noted, the HSA was not a retirement fund and did not fit

within this definition. It was also not mentioned in the decree. Thus, the trial court

correctly concluded that Jay could not use HSA accounts to pay for the property

settlement. The Second Assignment of Error, therefore, is overruled.

 IV. Attorney Fees Relating to Promissory Note

 {¶ 70} Jay's Third Assignment of Error states that:

 The Trial Court Abused Its Discretion and Its Findings Were Against

 the Manifest Weight of the Evidence in Awarding Attorney Fees for

 Defendant's Expert, Michael McNamee.

 {¶ 71} Under this assignment of error, Jay contends that the trial court erred in

awarding $10,000 to Nancy in connection with the testimony of attorney Michael

McNamee. Jay contends that McNamee's testimony about promissory notes was

irrelevant to any issues in the case, because McNamee testified about a note that was

not used.

 {¶ 72} Under the provision entitled "Property Settlement Payments," the divorce

decree stated as follows:

 The property settlement payment due and owing to the Defendant

 shall be secured by Promissory Note which shall be signed by the Plaintiff

 to the Defendant. The Plaintiff shall sign the promissory note to secure the

 Defendant's property settlement payment upon presentation of same by the

 Defendant.
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Doc. # 31 at p. 12.

 {¶ 73} The decree did not specify particular wording for the promissory note. On

January 23, 2014, Nancy's attorney, Ann Crossman, sent a promissory note to Jay's

attorney, Kent Depoorter, and asked him to have Jay sign the note and return it. See

Defendant's Ex. T. No response was received.

 {¶ 74} Instead of discussing the matter or replying to Crossman's letter, Depoorter

sent a modified promissory note to Crossman on March 27, 2014, that Jay had signed.

See Defendant's Ex. V; Plaintiff's Ex. 19. Crossman then sent another promissory note

to Depoorter on March 31, 2014, indicating that the promissory note Jay had signed was

unacceptable. See Plaintiff's Ex. 20.

 {¶ 75} Subsequently, on January 28, 2015, Nancy filed a motion for contempt and

attorney fees in the trial court, based on several grounds, one of which was that her

attorney had presented a promissory note to Jay's counsel and to Jay on several

occasions, but Jay had failed to sign the note that was submitted. Instead, Jay's counsel

had submitted a modified version of the note that did not contain all the language that the

note submitted by Nancy's counsel contained. Nancy asked that the court order Jay to

sign the promissory note that she had provided.

 {¶ 76} On October 29, 2015, Jay filed a motion for contempt against Nancy, based,

among other things, on her alleged failure to prepare a promissory note that was

consistent with the terms in the divorce decree. Jay also asked for attorney fees and

costs.

 {¶ 77} As the trial court noted in its decision, the difference between the two

promissory notes was that Nancy's note contained an acceleration clause and Jay's
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promissory note did not. While the trial court overruled Nancy's motion for contempt on

this issue, the court also commented that Jay should have consulted with the court instead

of engaging in self-help. However, the court found that Jay's actions were not willful

because there was an arguable defense to not signing Nancy's promissory note. The

court also overruled Branch III of Jay's October 29, 2015 contempt motion, which alleged

that Nancy failed to prepare a proper promissory note that was consistent with the terms

in the divorce decree.

 {¶ 78} In later deciding whether to award fees, the court stated that:

 Plaintiff [Jay] prepared his own promissory note based on his unilateral

 decision the Defendant's promissory note contained an acceleration clause

 that was not mentioned in the Final Decree[,] resulting in delays in resolution

 of the property settlement. The court finds resolution of the promissory

 note could have been settled by a simple conference call between the

 parties and the court. Instead Plaintiff resorted to the self-help practice of

 having his attorney prepare the note without involving the Court.

Doc. # 220 at p. 11.

 {¶ 79} The court further noted that Nancy had been required to respond to Jay's

contempt motions as well as ancillary motions to exclude her expert witnesses, that Jay's

actions caused Nancy to hire an attorney (Michael McNamee) to advise her on the

promissory note, and that the attorney had also testified at trial for a total fee of $10,000.

Id. The court subsequently awarded Nancy this amount for McNamee's fees. Id. at p.

12. Additionally, in overruling the motions in limine that Jay had filed to preclude

McNamee's testimony, the trial court noted that the testimony of McNamee and Nancy's
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other experts were needed to "break down the complicated financial issues to better

understand [Nancy's] contempt defense" and to decide the relevance of the testimony

that was presented. Id. at p. 5.

 {¶ 80} R.C. 3105.73 (B) states that:

 In any post-decree motion or proceeding that arises out of an action

 for divorce, dissolution, legal separation, or annulment of marriage or an

 appeal of that motion or proceeding, the court may award all or part of

 reasonable attorney's fees and litigation expenses to either party if the court

 finds the award equitable. In determining whether an award is equitable,

 the court may consider the parties' income, the conduct of the parties, and

 any other relevant factors the court deems appropriate, but it may not

 consider the parties' assets.

 {¶ 81} Awards of litigation expenses under R.C. 3105.73 are based on the trial

court's sound discretion, and will be reversed only if the court abused its discretion. See,

e.g., Brooks v. Brooks, 6th Dist. Fulton No. F-11-020, 2013-Ohio-405, ¶ 24. In addition,

the parties' conduct "is a relevant factor in determining whether an award of attorney fees

is equitable." Karales v. Karales, 10th Dist. Franklin No. 05AP-856, 2006-Ohio-2963,

¶ 25.

 {¶ 82} Awards under R.C. 3105.73 are not contingent on a finding of contempt, nor

are they limited just to attorney fees. Instead, litigation expenses are included, which

encompass expert fees. Brooks at ¶ 24 (affirming award for litigation expense for expert

on QDROs). See also O'Malley v. O'Malley, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 98708, 2013-Ohio-

5238, ¶ 87 ("Guardian ad litem fees, expert fees, and attorney fees are ‘litigation
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expenses' under R.C. 3105.73"); Moore v. Moore, 175 Ohio App.3d 1, 2008-Ohio-255,

884 N.E.2d 1113, ¶ 92 (6th Dist.) (size and potential value of marital estate warranted

employment of several experts); Wilson v. Wilson, 9th Dist. Wayne No. 05CA0078, 2008-

Ohio-3195, ¶ 12-14; Panico v. Panico, 10th Dist. Franklin No. 06AP-376, 2006-Ohio-

6650, ¶ 17 (expert witness fees may be allocated to opposing party under R.C. 3105.73).

 {¶ 83} We have reviewed the entirety of the proceedings, and we disagree with

Jay's contention that McNamee's testimony was irrelevant. Notably, Jay filed a motion

for contempt against Nancy, alleging that she failed to prepare a proper promissory note.

Nancy was entitled to defend herself against the contempt allegations.

 {¶ 84} In addition to being a lawyer, McNamee had a master's degree in business

administration with an emphasis in accounting. Transcript of March 15, 2016 Hearing,

pp. 121-122. His area of practice included business work, any type of transactional work,

and complex commercial litigation. Id. at pp. 122-123. McNamee testified that he had

prepared hundreds of promissory notes and had litigated issues concerning promissory

notes. Id. at pp. 123. He reviewed both the note that Jay signed and the one that Nancy

submitted, as well as the final divorce decree. Id. at pp. 123-124. With specific respect

to the contempt motion that Jay filed, McNamee testified that the promissory note that

Nancy proposed was appropriate, that acceleration clauses were "usual and customary,"

and that the note Jay had prepared and signed was one of the few he had seen that did

not contain an acceleration clause. Id. at 128-130. He further stated that acceleration

clauses are found in 99.99% of promissory notes. Id. at p. 142.

 {¶ 85} Jay has not challenged the reasonableness of the amount awarded for

McNamee's work, nor has he challenged the court's findings on the fact that Nancy was
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the economically disadvantaged party; instead, he has simply contended that McNamee's

testimony was irrelevant. As noted, we disagree. We also note that McNamee testified

about the issue of whether the promissory note's restriction of payment to lawful U.S.

money restricted or modified the divorce decree. This was an issue the parties raised.

Furthermore, from the trial court's decision, it is clear that the court disapproved of Jay's

actions even though the court limited its contempt findings to one issue. The record is

well-supported in this regard.

 {¶ 86} Accordingly, we conclude that the trial court did not abuse its discretion in

awarding fees for McNamee's testimony. The Third Assignment of Error, therefore, is

overruled.

 V. Expert Attorney Fees for David Suich

 {¶ 87} Jay's Fourth Assignment of Error states as follows:

 The Trial Court Abused Its Discretion and Its Findings Were Against

 the Manifest Weight of the Evidence in Awarding Attorney Fees for

 Defendant's Expert, David Suich.

 {¶ 88} Under this assignment of error, Jay contends that the trial court abused its

discretion in awarding fees to David Suich. Jay apparently contends that Suich's

testimony was unnecessary, as he allegedly testified to issues settled by our prior opinion.

In addition, Jay argues that no one testified that Suich's fees were necessary and

reasonable.

 {¶ 89} As a preliminary matter, we disagree with this characterization of Suich's

testimony. We have reviewed the entire record, and, as the trial court noted, Suich's
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testimony aided in understanding the issues. Suich was an attorney who practices tax

and business law and also does probate work. He indicated that his practice addresses

issues related to ERISA, and that he was retained to address tax issues related to

401(k)s, IRAs, and ERISA. His testimony pertained to these matters, as did the

testimony of several experts that Jay called as witnesses.

 {¶ 90} The trial court awarded Nancy $1,250 in fees for Suich's testimony. As

noted, in overruling Jay's motion in limine, the court stated that the testimony of Suich,

McNamee, and another expert (Hochwalt) retained by Nancy "was needed to break down

the complicated financial issues so that the Court could better understand the Defendant's

contempt defense. The testimony was also needed to determine the relevance of

evidence presented." Doc. #220 at p. 5.

 {¶ 91} As we said, the trial court has \sound discretion\" over awards of litigation